Tried to back this one up tonight. Have been using version 1.3 with no problems. Don't know if this is a 1.3 specific issue, but on disk 2, the audio is not right. It starts out with the commentary going. I have had this happen on a couple diff movies but with this one, when you go into the menu and turn it off, you end up with no audio at all. It won't let me switch between audio streams. It looks to me like it is stuck in DTS (which I don't have, so there is no way I can confirm there is audio there), but thats what the detail menu on my player says. It also shows that it is on #1 of 4 audio streams, but like I said, when I go back to the menu to change it, it doesn't change it on the movie. I am completely locked out of being able to change audio streams by just hitting the audio button on the remote. Any idea's???
By the way this is a NTSC version. First disk was error free, worked great. I have been using the alternate UDF and has worked fine for other backups so far.

Hi,

I have backup Behind Enemy Lines, but work fine, in some players. The probleam u are talking, i just had in one Philips i don´t know the the model ( but was one that record ).
I have test in a Sony and another players and all play ok the cd2.
I think the probleam is some thing to do, with dvdx tells where is the audio tracks.

This is very strange. I went back to version 1.2.1 and tried disk 2 again. And I was able to switch to the audio track that is dolby 5.1 (not DTS like I was stuck before with the 1.3 version), so I figure ok, I will just use nero and copy the second disk from this set and put it with the first disk of the first set I did with 1.3 Well did the copy, and the one that I burned has the same symptoms as the version of 1.3. It locks me into the DTS audio track on the second disk and will not switch. The only other audio tracks it will go to are the ones with the commentary. The real weird thing is, the second copy I made with the version 1.2.1, I used the nero burn engine. So my question is, why isn't the copy of the second disk I made with plain nero the same as the one I did with xcopy's 1.2.1????????

I forgot to mention, this syptom is the same in both my set top and with Power DVD...

ld324

I think you'll find that if you try 1.3 again, it will work provided you select disc 2 to start in "NORMAL" rather than any other option. Default is "Movie-Keep Menu" I think.

I've had that problem an MANY movies, and the answer was that the older versions of DXC started the 2nd DISC in "NORMAL" mode by default.

Give it a try and see what happens. I backed up the same movie myself using 1.3, and "NORMAL" start on 2nd DISC without problems.

Hey thanks for the tip. That makes sense now. I will give it a try and let you know. I have had disk 2 on other movies start with the commentary on, but I was always able to switch the audio track by just hitting the audio button on my remote to get to the right one. On this movie I wasn't able to switch it. Thanks again for the help.

Let me know if it worked for you. It did for me. BTW, I find it's best to RIP ONLY with the currnet version of DXC, copy files to another folder, test with favorite software player on your computer, make start-up adjustments as needed, burn using full version of nero express using DVD Video format

crjackson
You mention:

find it's best to RIP ONLY with the currnet version of DXC, copy files to another folder, test with favorite software player on your computer, make start-up adjustments as needed, burn using full version of nero express using DVD Video format

Are you refering to v1.3?
What type of start up adjustments can or should be made?
I agree the Nero express is a great way to go. I have yet to get the second disk of behind enemy lines to have any audio. Also, Same thing with Ghosts of Mars.
Any suggestions?
Anyone

Thanks

bcaldwell & others...

(Im going to go through the whole thing even though I am repeating much of what has been said in the thread already for clarity sakes)

The 'no audio for disk 2' problem is well known and hopefully Derrow is working around a way to fix it.. but it is usually quite easy to work around it yourself.. once you understand what has actually happened. (and my apologies for this long winded answer but its kinda hard to explain in a brief reply)

The reason for no audio on disk 2 is becausae you player is selecting it's default track for audio.. and whatever that track is.. and Im betting it will be something like DTS... your audio system cannot decode.

When you use disk 1 and you select audio via the menu, all is fine until you change disks and then your player cannot remember what audio you selected for disk 1 and so it plays what it thinks is the default audio track.. but some movies and some players get it wrong and end up playing an audio track that is not the usual default of DD5:1. Instead they play something else entirely leaving you with no sound or the wrong audio soundtrack.. The same applies to subtitles too.. which is why some people find upon inserting disk 2.. a subtitle will appear for no reason.

I should add, to clarify something.. that different players select different audio tracks by default.. and some DVDs do not follow the 'standard' set for which audio tracks go where.. resulting in the kind of oddities seen (heard) for different people... One person might have no problem.. where as another might have problems with exactly the same movie.. just because their player selects a different audio track by default (Some Apex players are a good example of a player that can and does often select a DTS track as the default one to play when nothing else is choosen)


Solutions?

First, see if the on disk menu works and if you can change audio tracks from there.

If that doesn't work.. try using the audio button on your remote control and change the audio track manually until you find one you can hear..

Some DVD's 'prohibit' the changing of audio tracks on the fly.. (Derrow has said he is looking into removing those kind of prohibitions for just such a reason) so in that case try the following.

Try stopping the DVD... and hopefully your player will stop in 'resume' mode. Then change audio tracks using your remote.. and resume play... That should fix it... and you should be able to change audio tracks.. but there have been a few cases where nothing works and you are stuck with a 'silent' or wrong audio track which for the time being you cannot change.

I hope this helps in some small way...

Mag66,

Thanks for the information. I will give this all a try and report my results. I apologize if I ask questions that have probably been answered in previous threads etc, but this forum is huge and is difficult to read through all comments and decide which are legit comments and which are possible BS, even with the search function.

I fully support DVD X COPY and am looking for the best resources to answers and updates. I have had 75% success burn rate, and know this will improve with education and enhancements to software.

bcaldwell
"Are you refering to v1.3?
What type of start up adjustments can or should be made?
I agree the Nero express is a great way to go. I have yet to get the second disk of behind enemy lines to have any audio. Also, Same thing with Ghosts of Mars.
Any suggestions?"

Yes, I was refering to 1.3
The start up adjustments I'm talking about are "Start Normal", "Start with Menu", "Start with Movie (keep Menu)", "Start with Movie (discard Menu)".

Because of problems with the second disc, I usrally skip processing the 1st Disc until I'm able to make a good copy of the 2nd Disc. Some times I have to try all the options, until I find one that works best (as tested with software player, then DVD-RW in the player). I've only found 2 titles to be a real pain for me (Collateral Damage/Lilo & Stitch).

I finally made an ACCEPTAL copy for Collateral Damage, but ended up doing a DVD Capture to my computer (through a capture card) and transcoding Lilo & Stitch with Cinema Craft Encoder.

By changing the startup menu on disk 2 to start normal did fix my problem. Just wanted to report. Disk 2 now starts in 5.1 Thanks for the help

ld324

"By changing the startup menu on disk 2 to start normal did fix my problem. Just wanted to report. Disk 2 now starts in 5.1 Thanks for the help "

You're welcome.

I figured it would work out. If you play around with disc 2 start-up options, you can get a satisfactory DVD set most of the time. Just be sure to test with software player 1st and see what audio mode is being used. I use WinDVD which plays just about anything, so you have to look at the little audio logo that tells you what mode it's in. If it tells you 5.1 you should be good to go. Then be sure you test it on a RW before patting yourself on the back. It takes a bit longer, but saves on wasted DVD blanks.

I had the same problem, so I burned the 2nd disk with the Normal option. It plays fine until about halfway into Chapter 1, and then the audio disappears. This occurs on the computer using PowerDVD. If I play the 2nd disk in my TV player (Sony), the audio is fine........I can live with it, but it would be nice to figure this one out. I enjoy watching these movies when I'm waiting for flights, etc.

crjackson

Just wondered what problems you ran into with Collateral Damage. I was going to attempt this one soon. Sounds like you didn't have much luck since you used a capture card. Just wondered if it was even worth my time to try. Thanks

I got it worked out. The capture card was used for Lilo & Stitch only. Sorry for not being more clear about that.

As for Collateral Damage:

On my software player it shows captions by default. But it plays perfect on set top players provided you use "Start W/Menu" option on disk 2.